tion. We have to look at our own habits,
and then economics and policy, and why
kids in Africa are starving when there’s
Are we willing to keep peeling back the
layers? It is almost like an onion – the
more layers you peel off, the more potent
On the journey to justice, there are
times when you think it is too hard, too
personal, it’s not making me feel good
anymore, it’s making me feel bad.
F T: We don’t like to feel bad.
DS: Entry-level mercy makes you feel
good. Deeper into justice can make you feel
bad. I think we all need to do more mercy
all the time, but justice is an invitation to
go deeper both inside and outside.
The shallow end of a pool is fun. You
don’t have to work to stay afloat. But once
you go to the deep end, it takes more risk.
You might go under. It’s scary and exhilarating. But it’s hard work.
F T: How do we figure out how to move forward
personally with mercy and justice?
DS: I think it’s listening to the call of God
in our lives and what He has called us to
do. I think of a couple who took over a
work I started in Vancouver in the Downtown Eastside. They moved into that
neighbourhood with their family, and
now collectively live with a group of
people in a house they all bought.
That’s an extreme other way to live in
our world. It’s like an affront to us. We say,
“What? You live with other people and
share your house?” And they’re living in
that neighbourhood with children.
The dominant culture would think
they’d lost their mind. They haven’t.
They are literally a sign and a wonder.
People are saying, “What is that about?”
Sometimes signs and wonders are a
prophetic example of doing life differently. The Church is called to be a sign
We forget how, in Acts, one of the
greatest signs and wonders was this collective economic status. They crossed the
boundaries of economic and gender divide.
We forget the radical nature of what
Christ called us to do.
There are other ways to be radical.
THE FT INTERVIEW