In 13 years people have come to the con-
clusion ‘that was then and this is now.’
To me, that speaks volumes that the dis-
cussion on Charter rights could generate a
completely different conclusion in the minds
of some people we assume are thinking the
issues through. In many respects it doesn’t
have liberality to it. It has a restrictive nature.
A very interesting book I’ve been reading, Is God Intolerant? Christian Thinking
About the Call for Tolerance by Daniel Taylor, deals very well with the language we
are using. Words like “tolerant” and “
discrimination” mean very different things
than how we use them.
The opposition to the law school is fram-
ing TWU’s position as being intolerant
without recognizing its own intolerance.
It becomes a nomenclature problem, a
definitional problem. The term “bigot” is
thrown about with abandon, the same as
We’ve defined discrimination in terms
so broad, it becomes a mantra.
fT: Why should the average Canadian
care about this case?
BK: I think it has huge significance for
religious freedom in a country heading
in the opposite direction. The general
trend of secular thinking means that
understanding and appreciation of religion of any kind is probably at its lowest
in modern history.
We have increased secularism to the
point that religion must be confined to
something you can believe in and espouse
in very carefully chosen terms. Beyond
that you face regulation and limitation of
rights that we would have considered very
strange 25 years ago.
There are so many indicators that suggest that this case, if it is found against
TWU in a courtroom, indicates a trend
that religious folks need not apply because
your personal religious views, once expressed in a public environment, become
a grounds for disqualification.
If TWU can’t have its law school, there is
only one reason that has been identified as
having any merit in the public eye – because
it has a differing view than secular society
regarding the issue of same sex-marriage.
f T: The nature of pluralism seems to be
up for debate.
BK: You used to be able to talk about biblical terminology with some common level
of understanding in Canada. These days
the whole area of religion is barely discussed and not understood by most. Most
people don’t understand the critical nature
of religious freedom in the country. They
are prepared to jettison Christianity and
other religions they may find adverse to
the secularism that prevails. Anyone who
stands up for any issue opposed to secularism is anathema to secularism.
The opposition’s perspective is that because of these six words [in the Community
Covenant] TWU has no place to play in a
pluralistic society – which defies both the
definition and intent of pluralism. We’re all
for pluralism as long as everyone agrees.
It relies on a perverse definition set out
in sound bites and accepted by the Canadian public as if it were the only position
logically and reasonably available. It’s a
f T: Thank you, Bob. FT
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