a lifetime. But most of the fishponds are
owned by a few wealthy people.
So, there has to be a change in the structures so that people can fish for a lifetime.
That’s more controversial. Evangelicals to
an astonishing degree don’t get the structural change, even after 30 years of political
They still tend to think you change the
world one person at a time. That’s half
right. Coming to a personal faith in Christ
changes people, changes their values and
their decisions and their lifestyle in dramatic ways that actually improves their
But you also change people by changing
the structures so that people have a better
opportunity to get a quality education and
to get healthcare.
FT: Ron, the Church of the Global South
(Africa, Central America and much of
Asia) is exploding in numbers. How does
that change the face of the global Church?
RS: It’s enormously important. Who
would have thought in 1900 that 110 or
so years later around 66 per cent of all
Christians would be in the Global South?
Christians in the Two-Thirds World are
more and more influential, developing sophisticated theological institutions. Their
leadership is more and
It’s stunning to see
how some theologically
exist in a situation where
the overwhelmingly majority of their members
are solidly biblical Christians from Africa and
One would think that
what we have learned
about the sin of colonialism would lead us to take
that seriously. In the one Body of Christ we
need to listen to each other across those
lines and we ought to take seriously that
the majority of the Christians in our community think this is what the Bible says.
That is what it means to take the Body
of Christ seriously. But on some issues,
we see some Western theologians and
church leaders being incredibly arrogant,
occasionally even explicitly thumbing
their noses at the Chris-
tian community in de-
Learning how to really
listen to the one Body of
Christ across those lines
is enormously important,
and it’s challenging. The
money is still far more
within North America,
but the numbers and the
vitality of the faith and
the growth of the faith
is very much in the Two-Thirds World.
I think we will see
more and more African Christians coming to Europe and North America and
revitalizing churches. Brazilians going to
Portugal, and Latin American Christians
going to Spain. God knows we need it.
FT: Ron, what are your hopes for the
RS: Well, I hope that it would truly embrace the full biblical Christ, embrace a
vigorous evangelism and social action,
dare to live out in the Body of Christ the
radical character of what Jesus taught, His
ethical teaching and how He told us to live.
I dream that there’s revival all around
the world, that the African church keeps
growing like crazy, gets a solid balance
and becomes wisely engaged politically so
that they can correct some of the problems
they have in terms of corruption and poor
I imagine the Church spreading in China,
and China eventually becoming more free. I
dream of the lukewarm, half-hearted North
American Church, where so many people
claim to be Christians but really don’t live
like Jesus, experiencing revival.
I even dream of European Christianity
being renewed – not just five per cent but
35 per cent of the people in Europe going to
church on a Sunday morning. That is what
I would love to see. I think that requires being centred on Christ, having a biblical balance, prayer, evangelism and social action.
It won’t happen without the Lord sending
FT: Thank you, Ron. FT
My own view is
in their political
have had a balance
and a sanity that
has not often been
a part of American
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